Curse

Midnight Harmony · Dec 01, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

I didn't turn the question around on you. You said financial situations would prevent someone from buying a game via the internet. And I said if someone has a financial situation preventing them from buying a game via the internet, then they shouldn't be buying an MMO in the first place. It wasn't directed at you.
Areanets fault that you "didn't really want to." So they should change the entire promotion to cater to you?
Ignorant because no one can supply a decent argument as to why they can't purchase online? I think you are ignorant for standing behind that argument without a fact to back it up. All I asked was for a country that couldn't use Paypal.
...... Yes, it could. Thats how 90% of people qualified for it. Did you read any of this thread?

Like I stated I had an incentive to buy in town, and I did, and nothing future nor past will make me purchase through an online store. I have read the thread in parts, and if those people are happy to use the store then that's cool, I'm just not in that demographic. I've spoken to many people who couldn't use the store because their payment methods aren't allowed, and those people got the short straw as there's nothing they can do. This discussion will always have three groups of people; those who don't have it, those who do but are mature about it, and those who act in an infantile, pathetic and embarassing way regardless, and have about 1 neuron total.

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Originally Posted by KANE OG

Your collectors 15>50 sundering sword of QQ slaying has the same stats as my kickass looking mursaat sword..... except mine was a FREAKIN REWARD because I CHOSE to use the online store and QUALIFY for the bmp. You SCREWED it up. Not my problem.

KANE

Above you can see a perfect example that proves my point.

Ecomancer · Dec 01, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

What exactly is wrong with offering the bonus pack for lets say, $10-$15 in a couple of months time? Any non signer here have a single valid reason (I have not seen one thus far) why it should not be made available again for a substantially lower price than the promotion requirement?

Looking forwards to enlightening responses.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

sorry but that is wrong.

this is NCsoft who owns Anet pays their bills and gives them paychecks setting things up for GW2 which will be heavy on ingame store items.

CHUNTER X it is my opinion that it will be heavy micropayments on vanity items and not on good looking drop items.

5 dollars to change hair style 3/10 dollars?

5 dollars for hair dye 3/10 dollars?

style and color 7.50 3/15 dollars?

extra street clothes?

the vanity items are endless while still letting me play a non ingame store character that is fun.

i have more faith in jeff/mike and the devs than turning it into a better looking maplestory

Micropayments I'll have to make for vanity items, or a "flat tax" I can pay monthly, for better actual content updates, vanity and actual useful items, and better player support. Tough choice. No matter what they do with Micropayments, if they use them at all, I won't be playing. But thats for another thread.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

Like I stated I had an incentive to buy in town, and I did, and nothing future nor past will make me purchase through an online store.

Thats nice, you chose the incentive of 5 GAME bux instead of the incentive for content, and now you regret it, and all of a sudden Areanet should change it for you?

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

I've spoken to many people who couldn't use the store because their payment methods aren't allowed, and those people got the short straw as there's nothing they can do.

Please, read some of the thread, at least the latest 5-10 pages of it.

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

This discussion will always have three groups of people; those who don't have it, those who do but are mature about it, and those who act in an infantile, pathetic and embarassing way regardless, and have about 1 neuron total.

Above you can see a perfect example that proves my point.

Name calling is the sign of a weak argument. And against the rules.

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

What exactly is wrong with offering the bonus pack for lets say, $10-$15 in a couple of months time? Any non signer here have a single valid reason (I have not seen one thus far) why it should not be made available again for a substantially lower price than the promotion requirement?

Looking forwards to enlightening responses.

If someone is able to buy the BMP in the in-game store in a few months, what was preventing them from qualifying for it in the original four months time, by simply purchasing EotN? Why should they get it cheaper when they ignored the promotion that specifically stated "The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store?"

Loviatar · Dec 01, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Gin Cometh

New Content as in a whole , & where did i say Quit?

when you posted this i made obviously the incorrect assumption you quit.

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I dont like how ANET/NCSOFT have to place those damn weapons in the main citys,its like they are rubbin it in that we have no access to the new content.Very bad move, i can see how GW2 is going to be ,pay online for upgrades just like Battlefield 2 addons were,EA lost a lot of players due to that & Guild Wars has also just lost a loyal customer.

signed/not signed
does not even matter any more.

trobinson97 · Dec 01, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

My point was that people wanted GW:EN on launch and had concerns over buying it from the store. For many GW:EN was the only product left to buy and qualify for the offer (many of us already had character slots and the weapon pack).

I understand the concerns, but that's the whole point of making choices, you have to deal with them.

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

Like I stated I had an incentive to buy in town, and I did, and nothing future nor past will make me purchase through an online store. I have read the thread in parts, and if those people are happy to use the store then that's cool, I'm just not in that demographic. I've spoken to many people who couldn't use the store because their payment methods aren't allowed, and those people got the short straw as there's nothing they can do. This discussion will always have three groups of people; those who don't have it, those who do but are mature about it, and those who act in an infantile, pathetic and embarassing way regardless, and have about 1 neuron total

Question: You absolutely won't buy from the online store, so what are you arguing for? That it be sold at Gamestop? That's definitely not going to happen.

Midnight Harmony · Dec 01, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Thats nice, you chose the incentive of 5 GAME bux instead of the incentive for content, and now you regret it, and all of a sudden Areanet should change it for you?
Please, read some of the thread, at least the latest 5-10 pages of it.
Name calling is the sign of a weak argument. And against the rules.

You live in America so I don't expect you to understand game promotions here in the U.K, but it's not "bux", the money gained from double points because I pre-ordered is £5 or to you, $10 which is ample incentive. On a side note, don't try backseat moderating as nobody likes it. I'm arguing for the masses trobinson, and want to see it released, that is all.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

You live in America so I don't expect you to understand game promotions here in the U.K, but it's not "bux", the money gained from double points because I pre-ordered is £5 or to you, $10 which is ample incentive. On a side note, don't try backseat moderating as nobody likes it. I'm arguing for the masses trobinson, and want to see it released, that is all.

Ok, so you traded content for $10. It doesn't matter whether or not it was ample incentive or not. You chose it over the BMP. And now you want the BMP too. Having your cake and eating it too? You do realize you are arguing for something that will probably cost somewhere around $15 (I assume thats somewhere around £7.50), effectively costing you $5.00 more than if you were to just buy it in the in-game store?
And arguing for the masses doesn't unlock the "free-pass" to tossing around names.

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Originally Posted by trobinson97

I understand the concerns, but that's the whole point of making choices, you have to deal with them.
Question: You absolutely won't buy from the online store, so what are you arguing for? That it be sold at Gamestop? That's definitely not going to happen.

Exactly. At this point, anything that is going to cost Areanet money isn't going to happen. They've said this repeatedly.

Ecomancer · Dec 01, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Ok, so you traded content for $10. It doesn't matter whether or not it was ample incentive or not. You chose it over the BMP. And now you want the BMP too. Having your cake and eating it too?
And arguing for the masses doesn't unlock the "free-pass" to tossing around names.

You sound like quite a good advocate for the naysayers here. Let me ask you this, why do you hold that people should not be allowed to get the bonus pack?

Nothing wrong with having cake and eating it too, in fact, anyone that eats cake needs to have it in their possession first.

Midnight Harmony · Dec 01, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Ok, so you traded content for $10. It doesn't matter whether or not it was ample incentive or not. You chose it over the BMP. And now you want the BMP too. Having your cake and eating it too?
And arguing for the masses doesn't unlock the "free-pass" to tossing around names.

I'm not going to explain it anymore as you obviously don't understand but that's ok. You prefer the online store, I use retail. I mean after all everyone deserves this pack, but I guess ANet and NCSoft think otherwise. Shame.

BlackEagle · Dec 01, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

/signed

I don't see how it adversely affects the people who already bought it for it to be made availible.

If you say it's because you could have got EoTN for cheaper or whatever, so you only paid more at the ingame store, then financially, assuming the BMP is a reasonable price it'll still be cheaper for them in the long run. Other than that, the only reason is that people don't want other people to have the weapons/don't think they deserve it or whatever and in all honesty that's just pathetic. I just don't see how it affects people to see other people enjoy the same content they've already played through/got.

A lot of people's argument seems to be: "you had your chance, you missed it, haha." Which really doesn't make sense, because it doesn't affect them adversely except if it meant they had to pay more for GWEN, which shouldn't be a problem if it's priced reasonably.

They could release it in conjunction with another thing, or re-open the same offer.

From anets view point there is no draw-back to releasing it, other than annoying some of the people who already have it, as they already have the content. It really is to good a money making opportunity for them to never open up another way for it imo.

Str0b0 · Dec 01, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

I'm not going to explain it anymore as you obviously don't understand but that's ok. You prefer the online store, I use retail. I mean after all everyone deserves this pack, but I guess ANet and NCSoft think otherwise. Shame.

Everyone had the chance to get this pack. EVERYONE! This has already been covered adequately there is no excuse for anyone to have not gotten it if they wanted it. Whether they deserve it or not is another matter entirely. I don't think that anyone is entitled to anything just because. The only people who deserve it are the people who fulfilled the obligations in the promotion to actually acquire it. End of Story.

Black Eagle the principle of the thing is that the people who took advantage should be rewarded and the people who didn't shouldn't. It's as simple as that. Catering to regret is just reprehensible and only encourages more irresponsible behavior and whining. On principle I think they should with hold the pack from further release. It wouldn't be fair to the people who were justly rewarded for fulfilling the obligations of the promotion to offer it in response to all this whining. You could argue that life isn't fair but I've always found that that is the argument of people who refuse to take responsibility for the conditions of the world around them . Life is not fair because people do not choose to act in a fair manner. So call it pathetic if you want. I think it is equally pathetic to cry about missing out on something you had ample opportunity to take part in.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

You sound like quite a good advocate for the naysayers here. Let me ask you this, why do you hold that people should not be allowed to get the bonus pack?

Nothing wrong with having cake and eating it too, in fact, anyone that eats cake needs to have it in their possession first.

I don't think that people should not be allowed to get the BMP. I do think that if they are allowed to get the BMP, then we (the players who paid for EotN via the in-game store) should get our boxes shipped to us, free of charge. Giving the players who bought the retail box access to the BMP content is a kick-in-the-nuts to those who missed out on their box by simply following a promotion that again, specifically said "The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store"; how is that fair? I've said this multiple times in multiple threads. They won't do this though, because it will cost them money. The horrible excuses used by some people make me lean towards not giving it out at all. I mean, if people had just said, "Yeah, I screwed up." Maybe I wouldn't sound so against it, but nope, people continue to whine that its Areanet's fault and that Areanet should fix it, instead of learning from mistakes...

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

I'm not going to explain it anymore as you obviously don't understand but that's ok. You prefer the online store, I use retail. I mean after all everyone deserves this pack, but I guess ANet and NCSoft think otherwise. Shame.

I'm not going to explain it anymore as you obviously don't understand but that's OK. I don't prefer the store, but I made the choice to get the BMP, and you made the choice to get $10 towards the game. I mean, after all, everyone should have to live with the choices they make, and not cry to Areanet when they make the wrong one. Shame.

Abnaxus · Dec 01, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

To all those who have this pack and don't want others to be able to buy:

GO HOME

PLAY THE GAME

ENJOY

DONT' BREAK THE BALLS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BUY

That's the only thing it's possible to say to people like you.

Ecomancer · Dec 01, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Thats nice, you chose the incentive of 5 GAME bux instead of the incentive for content, and now you regret it, and all of a sudden Areanet should change it for you?
Please, read some of the thread, at least the latest 5-10 pages of it.
Name calling is the sign of a weak argument. And against the rules.

If someone is able to buy the BMP in the in-game store in a few months, what was preventing them from qualifying for it in the original four months time, by simply purchasing EotN? Why should they get it cheaper when they ignored the promotion that specifically stated "The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store?"

Ah, just the typical answer I was looking for. Can you tell I purposedly asked such a question for such a response?

If a company runs a promotion for x period of time (limited time) there is nothing that prevents them from reintroducing the promotion.

Also, if your question was also why should items get cheaper on a latter date? For the simple reason that items devaluate over time. Am I complaining that "Hey I paid 29.99 for Prophecies, why are people allowed to buy it for 14.99, they shouldn't be, its not fair to me"?

From the plethora of responses, most are complaining that it cost them xyz for useless things such as and that it would be unfair to them if it were made available cheaper. Seriously folks, you paid the price to be privy to the bonus pack. If it is made available and for a considerably low amount, please learn that things get cheaper over time.

The bonus pack is CONTENT and having content that is privy to some is totally against the principles of this game.

Trub · Dec 01, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

I'm actually happy to see the new skins that ANet has offered those in the BMP.
There is no reason to feel jealous, or twist mean spiritedness into this...it is only a game.
And I thank everyone for posting the beautiful pictures of the BMP locations and skins!
Who knows...maybe this is a taste of something to come in the future of GW...(GW2?)

Tachyon · Dec 01, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Let me just point something out to you. The flipping store version:

1) HAS NO MANUAL
2) IS ONLY A PAPER THIN CASE (not even a box)
3)THE DISC ISN'T EVEN NEEDED TO PLAY GW

So i don't see how that is a reason to not allow us the opportunity to buy the BMP. It's so amazing how you can cry so badly over an item you haven't even seen first hand!!! Do you want me to dam well take photo's of the outstanding box, amazing "bonus key booklet" (manual in your case) just to drill that FACT into you!?

P.S. I also notice you keep saying discS <-- plural. There is no plural about it. 1 disc, that isn't even needed to play the game.

Erm, you seem to slightly mistaken there! At this exact moment I am looking at the EotN retail version and it's in a full size pastic DVD case with a full coulour manual and a map!

Ecomancer · Dec 01, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

Erm, you seem to slightly mistaken there! At this exact moment I am looking at the EotN retail version and it's in a full size pastic DVD case with a full coulour manual and a map!

No one is stopping you from going to the stores and purchasing the case, manual and map. I mean if you were able to sacrifice the 29.99 for the promotion I am sure you can sacrifice 29.99 for those too.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

If a company runs a promotion for x period of time (limited time) there is nothing that prevents them from reintroducing the promotion.

The word only suggests otherwise, at least in this case

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

Also, if your question was also why should items get cheaper on a latter date? For the simple reason that items devaluate over time.

If the items were tradeable, or maybe even if the missions were co-op, yes, I'd agree maybe in the distant future. But they aren't.

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

From the plethora of responses, most are complaining that it cost them xyz for useless things such as and that it would be unfair to them if it were made available cheaper. Seriously folks, you paid the price to be privy to the bonus pack. If it is made available and for a considerably low amount, please learn that things get cheaper over time.

The bonus pack is CONTENT and having content that is privy to some is totally against the principles of this game.

Not in the next 2-3 months. I don't think NF has even dropped in price in the in-game store, and thats over a year old.

Str0b0 · Dec 01, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

The bonus pack is CONTENT and having content that is privy to some is totally against the principles of this game.

Ok sure whatever. I'd love to see that mission statement as some Arena Net employee stood up and wrapped an Ascalonian flag around himself and proudly proclaimed that all content should be accessible to everyone. Oh wait this content was accessible to everyone if they took part in the promotion. You act like Arena Net sent all of us BMP people a secret email that said." Oh yeah BTW we're making this bonus Mission Pack and we're going to let you have it if you spend 30 bucks in our store but shhhhh don't tell the other players." so everyone could have gotten it but chose not to. No one is witholding anything from anyone, well except now that the promotion is OVER. You had the same opportunity as me to get it so what stopped you? Did Arena Net check your ID at the store and see that you were on some sort of secret black list? No of course not. Stop acting like some disenfrachised oppressed minority. you had your chance get over it.